Squatting Knees Over Toes (THE TRUTH!) – ATHLEAN-X™

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If you squat you have likely been told to never let your knees go past your toes. If you do, you will likely damage your knees, tendons and integrity of your joints. In this video, I’m going to tell you the truth about squatting knees over toes and break down the biomechanics of the squat exercise to help you better understand this controversial opinion on this popular leg exercise.

To start, it’s helpful to understand that the squat is performed with coordinated movement between the hips, ankles and knees. When there is a limitation at one of the joints in the kinetic chain there will be compensations that occur that alter the biomechanics of the squat exercise and can lead to breakdown and issues down the line.

When we squat too much with our knees, you see the characteristic forward movement of the knees over the toes without much hinging going on at the hips. This is incredibly stressful on the anterior knee joint and actually takes out of the exercise one of the largest and strongest muscle groups that should be contributing to the lift – your glutes. This can also be seen readily on an exercise like the Sissy Squat – which should be avoided at all costs and is demonstrated in the video.

The second way to squat is to hinge properly at the hips when you perform the movement but to be careful not to allow the knees to travel past the toes at any point during the squat. This creates a tendency to keep your center of mass back a bit and away from the proper midpoint of the foot. When this occurs, the anterior stress on the knees is diminished but so is the proper transfer of forces throughout the lower extremity kinetic chain as you’ll see in a minute.

The final way to squat would be to let the hips travel backwards as far as they can go while allowing the knees to travel forward as far as they can go. This would result in a bottom position on the squat that placed the knees significantly ahead of the toes but the hips and center of mass properly distributed above the mid foot. Now, getting into this position is actually harder than it looks because of tightness that often exists in the ankle joint.

Limited range of motion into ankle dorsiflexion is one of the main reasons we can’t get forward tibial travel during the descent of a squat. This can either come from muscle tightnesses in the calf and achilles or from bony impingement that occurs in the ankle joint. Either way, limited dorsiflexion is causing the buildup of force that is created by the quads and glutes to be stalled in the knee joint rather than flow through to the ankle along the kinetic chain.

In order to have pain free squatting in your knees you must figure out a way to allow the tibia to move anteriorly during the squat. You can do this by being conscious of the desired movement and trying to figure out a way to facilitate the motion. The best way I know how to do this is to stop trying to lock your big toe down into the floor when you squat. Instead, you want to pin the inner and outer portion of your foot to the ground, but along the mid foot and not the toes.

Push down through the heel, outside and inside of the foot but allow the toes to remain free. In fact, if you want to really assist the tibia in getting into the proper position during the exercise you want to try and pull your big toe up slightly into extension as you drop down into the squat. This will help to assist the movement of the knees over toes while staying in balance with the hips that are moving posteriorly through a proper hinge.

When done right, you will have a bottomed out position of the squat that places your knees over your toes but results in no knee pain and a stronger, more biomechanically sound squat. If you have a history of knee pain when squatting, you will definitely want to try this and see for yourself. I guarantee that you will squat with less knee pain and will be able to experience better balance and strength during the exercise the very next time you try it.

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Johnwick July 10, 2021 - 9:04 pm

Ok

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Matt Alvarado July 12, 2021 - 7:37 am

Sending this to one of my friends , they mentioned to me their knees were hurting. I figured it was improper squat , love the video!

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Nathaniel Krugjohn July 12, 2021 - 11:32 am

you most certainly did not link the ankle video at the end 🙁

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skar516 July 13, 2021 - 2:41 am

Jeff will correct the form in which your chest contracts every time you breathe. Because you are doing it wrong

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Haider Imran July 13, 2021 - 4:11 am

Not even lying, i've been doing the 3rd squat (knee not going ahead) daily for 1 month and have developed a pain in my left knee. Will see if the 2nd squat helps

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Courtneh R July 13, 2021 - 2:53 pm

If I sent you a video of how loud my knee pops could you diagnose it? Fook no

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Michael Garcia DTX July 17, 2021 - 4:59 am

For someone with right knee issues for years from injury, it has been "knees over toes guy" advice that has made my both knees and legs overall stronger, flexible and more mobile. The "sissy squat" also has made my knees and legs stronger. Just goes to show not everyone is right about everything. If anyone needs advice about knees, go to "knees over toes guy's" channel. I'm living proof the methods he teaches work.

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ADMA July 18, 2021 - 7:24 am

That talking knee looks disjointed

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J.R. Spliff 212 July 19, 2021 - 1:26 am

For a while I been casually squatting and after watching the beginning of this, unsure if I was doing #2(lol) or #3. Tried 2 just now and instantly felt it on my calves.

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Nick Kamp July 23, 2021 - 5:50 am

Question. I was hoping to see your legs from the front. Do your knees go outside your feet or do you keep them in line. I was back in the gym for the first time this week in years and my knees where killing me after. I wasnt able to do more than 10 bodyweight squats. Where should my knees be in relation to my feet?

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Green Star July 23, 2021 - 5:57 pm

Squat fanatics are not happy cuz they love saying “over the toes” !! Like big Lebowski “over the line!!!”

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Leonardo Cordero July 23, 2021 - 9:13 pm

I’m I the only one Clicking this video for the 100 time by mistake….. 😒😵‍💫😂🤧

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Timothy Judge July 24, 2021 - 1:27 am

I'd love to see Jeff have a discussion with Knees Over Toes Guy about the stuff he does with knee "bulletproofing".

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Khroniclas August 5, 2021 - 9:23 am

My physical therapist tells me to do the third squat to reduce pressure on my knees during my recovery. Not sure f hat s a specific and temporary fix for me. Or whether his information is outdated. Should I trust him?

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InsaneCitizenErased August 5, 2021 - 6:51 pm

thanks!

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Elijah W. Arterburn August 24, 2021 - 1:48 am

Can you do a video on kneesovertoes guy?!? Do you think he is legit?

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rick Odit August 26, 2021 - 2:12 am

Hey Jeff what do you think of hindu squats, how to do it, and is it safe to do? I don't know of you already have a video about that.

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Ben Burns August 28, 2021 - 2:20 pm

I mix my reps during a session. What do you think ?

start with light full reps working your way towards heavy three-quarter reps in the same session

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Nate Hubbard September 5, 2021 - 8:16 pm

I had someone ask about squat form and I mentioned that you should have your toes inline with your knees. Had a jackass get all up in my grill about "broscience" and shit and was just a general dick. Thank you for making a video explaining this. Always better to hear it from a good source than a random guy online with a stick up his ass!

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William Luna September 5, 2021 - 11:43 pm

People who tell you not to push your knees over your toes have absolutely no clue about human anatomy. It's really annoying. Where does this major BS even come from? Who invented that stupid, useless rule that so many people still follow because they don't know better?

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fannypack96 September 7, 2021 - 10:47 pm

So u believe that the @kneesovertoesguy, movement called the “Tibialis raise” is beneficial because it strengthens the Tibialis?

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Igeoerre September 26, 2021 - 3:41 pm

Hi jeff or anyone.. What about the knees over toes guy.. I have seen so much improvement in me legs and knee tendons following his routines, but parts of what you indicate here seems to go against it..

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Aryan Singh September 26, 2021 - 4:44 pm

Thanks sir.

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rohit singh September 29, 2021 - 5:06 am

People in my gym suggested the last one..

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Bane October 9, 2021 - 6:06 pm

I could never do it the "proper" way. I knew it was non sense.

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Sonja D. October 16, 2021 - 3:12 am

Is it the mic or are his knees actually cracking when his squatting? Does that mean he‘s an actual human?

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Phan Trọng October 26, 2021 - 4:43 pm

Hi.should i do hindu push up ???

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Eric Cox November 4, 2021 - 1:56 pm

Great info. Thanks for this video. Love the channel

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Moonie Six November 15, 2021 - 7:45 am

Thank you so much

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Stephen November 20, 2021 - 7:50 am

my first year or two of lifting i only did leg machines..when i first started squatting free weights, i talked with anyone i knew who did/had done weightlifting. a lot of people say dont let the knees travel over the toes but i ALWAYS felt if was a more natural movent…if you have to sit back more you end up recruiting the lower back more…im trying to tax my legs..not my back..

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Josiah Hezekiah November 29, 2021 - 1:17 pm

Hey Jeff can you address the monkey feet the knees over toes guy uses?

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Sanja P November 30, 2021 - 7:12 am

Everytime when I have a problem I find your video and You help me every single time, like mind reading 🥰🍀🍑💪

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voice or echo December 6, 2021 - 2:49 pm

Thank you

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carl hawkins December 10, 2021 - 3:57 pm

lol i have a built in technique monitor when it comes to my squats. it is called, "my knees" they let me know right away if i am doing these wrong. 🙂
and, thanks to this video, i can be even more sure

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Tyler Scott December 13, 2021 - 2:15 pm

Ben Patrick kneesovertoesguy has collaborated with so many fitness youtubers but not Jeff. I would love to see a collab or at least a commentary on what Jeff thinks.

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Tunk Knut December 15, 2021 - 12:15 am

yes, it feels much better with the knees over the toes, how could I believe my trainers ? To let the toes lift (or actively lift the big toe) was a good hint, too. I got the toes wrong, after learning some Yoga techniques.

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Ava Rivera December 15, 2021 - 12:47 pm

Everyone in my family is saying knees behind toes and I’ve been agreeing with knees over toes and everyone is saying I’m wrong. Smh i knew I was right I trust this guy with my life

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Tunge January 3, 2022 - 11:15 am

I've always try to not let my knee pass my toes and it would hurt, thank god for this 👏🏾👏🏾

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MrJustACow January 4, 2022 - 7:18 am Reply